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  1. Series Cambridge Texts in the History of Political Thought. Subjects Ancient Philosophy, Classical Studies, History, History of Ideas and Intellectual History, Politics and International Relations, Texts in Political Thought. Format: Hardback. Publication date: 19 November 2009. ISBN: 9780521837293. Dimensions (mm): 216 x 138 mm. Weight: 0.47kg.

    • Introduction

      The Gorgias and the Protagoras. The Protagoras and the...

    • CAMBRIDGE TEXTS IN THE HISTORY OF POLITICAL THOUGHT
    • TOM GRIFFITH
    • A guide to further reading
    • Editorial note
    • The Gorgias and the Protagoras
    • The sophists
    • The Gorgias on power
    • The argument with Callicles
    • The Gorgias and the Menexenus
    • The Symposium and the Protagoras
    • The Protagoras against the sophists
    • Socrates’ intellectualist argument

    Series editors RAYMOND GEUSS Professor in Philosophy, University of Cambridge QUENTIN SKINNER Professor of the Humanities, Queen Mary, University of London Cambridge Texts in the History of Political Thought is now firmly estab-lished as the major student textbook series in political theory. It aims to make available to students all the most import...

    CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY PRESS Cambridge, New York, Melbourne, Madrid, Cape Town, Singapore, São Paulo, Delhi Cambridge University Press The Edinburgh Building, Cambridge CB , RU UK Published in the United States of America by Cambridge University Press, New York www.cambridge.org Information on this title: www.cambridge.org/ In the translation and edi...

    Gorgias Dramatis personae Analysis The dialogue Menexenus Dramatis personae Analysis The dialogue Protagoras Dramatis personae Analysis The dialogue Appendix Index

    The translation (by TG) is made in the case of Gorgias from the text in Dodds’s edition, and in the case of Menexenus and Protagoras from Burnet’s edition in the Oxford Classical Texts series. The few varia-tions from these adopted here are mentioned in notes at the appropri-ate points. The notes to the translation (by MS, as with the rest of the e...

    The Protagoras and the Gorgias are not only the longest, but by gen-eral agreement the most important among Plato’s ‘Socratic’ dialogues (the quixotic Menexenus – on which more later – is another matter). Both present Socrates in argument with leading members of the sophis-tic movement, questioning the claims to wisdom or expertise that they mak...

    At the beginning of the Hippias Major ascribed to Plato, Socrates tells us this about the sophists ( b–c): Gorgias, the well-known sophist from Leontini, came here on public business, as an ambassador from his home city – selected because he was the most capable person in Leontini to handle their communal affairs. When he spoke before the dêmos [...

    Early in the dialogue Socrates puts it to Gorgias that it shouldn’t be the practitioner of rhetoric who advises the city on building walls or fitting out harbours or dockyards, but master builders. Gorgias takes this as his cue to ‘unfold the power of rhetoric in its entirety’. ‘You are aware’, he says ( d–e), ‘that your dockyards here, and the ...

    The idea that power is the ability to do just what you please is not silenced in the dialogue forever by Socrates’ argument here. Something very like it is reasserted by Callicles, perhaps the most eloquent and passionate of all Socrates’ discussion partners in the dialogues, and someone whose view of life has often been justifiably perceived as ...

    The Gorgias’s clearest philosophical and literary afiliations are with the Apology (Plato’s version of Socrates’ speech at his trial) and the Crito (where Socrates explains why he must decline an old friend’s offer to help him escape the condemned cell). In its way it is as preoccupied with Socrates’ life and death as they are. Its delineation of...

    The Protagoras is among other things an entertainment. It has obvious afinities with other Socratic dialogues (especially the treatment of cour-age in the Laches), and with the Meno, often seen as a dialogue transit-ional between the early and middle groups, and as taking up as its topic the question about the nature and consequently the teacha...

    If the Symposium is written in such a way as to try to convince us of the ‘authenticity’ of its Socrates, of its representation of the long extinct aristocratic milieu in which he often included himself, and (ultimately) of the truth about Socratic erôs, what are we to make of the Protagoras’s use of the same cast of characters, the same kind of m...

    We have reached the point in the dialogue where Socrates shifts the dis-cussion from the origins, presuppositions and mechanisms of civilisation to logic. ‘Just one small additional question’, he says ( b) – a Socratic trademark phrase, recognisable as the expression of a properly philosoph-ical desire for clarity and precision. It launches the seq...

  2. Oct 4, 2019 · 1. Reading the Protagoras and the Gorgias as a Pair. It is not difficult to see why the Protagoras and Gorgias are often considered as a pair. 1 In both, Socrates takes on a famous intellectual visiting Athens from out of town and in both Socrates and this famous visitor clash on important issues of philosophical method as well as philosophical ...

  3. Nov 12, 2010 · Plato has him make plenty of procedural, methodological remarks over dozens of pages in both the Gorgias and the Protagoras. We might want to take these seriously, if a key point of Platonic political philosophy is that, despite arguments to the contrary, politics does abide—indeed, depends on for its legitimacy—careful analysis, rigorous ...

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  5. Nov 19, 2009 · Plato: Gorgias, Menexenus, Protagoras. Presented in the popular Cambridge Texts format are three early Platonic dialogues in a new English translation by Tom Griffith that combines elegance, accuracy, freshness and fluency. Together they offer strikingly varied examples of Plato's critical encounter with the culture and politics of fifth and ...

  6. MENEXENUS With his cousin Ctesippus became a member of Socrates' intimate circle, to judge from their presence in the prison on the day the hemlock was administered (Phaedo 59b). In the Lysis Menexenus (again in Ctesippus's company) and his friend Lysis are boys of twelve or thirteen. In the Menexenus he is evidently a few years older. Socrates ...

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