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  1. All deletion discussions relating to filmmakers, directors and other non-actor film-related people should now be listed on this page. This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Actors and filmmakers. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting.

  2. And once again, if an actor and/or actress who portrays someone portraying a minor guest character in an episode of a show and aren't seen again like 2 years, or better yet 5-7 years or a decade later after their first appearance in an episode (e.g. Gillian Anderson in The X-Files, Shelby Holiday (Gwyneth Paltrow) who remained absent after her ...

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    • Sortable Tables

    I've proposed to Xenothat his bot make passes across these articles implementing the changes and he's agreed, tentatively. The details need sorting. There are a lot of variations of all the hard-coded markup and a bot can sort a lot of them, prolly in different passes. There will inevitably be articles that need manual attention and I'm hopeful that all will hew to the gist of this close. I'm going to ask a few template experts to review the {{Filmography table headings}} implementation in case I've missed something needful. The close of the issue of bulleted lists vs tables is at odds with this project's stated goal, which needs changing and is a separate discussion. In the meantime, we deal with the extant tables and I'd suggest that no further lists be converted to tables by the participants hereabouts. Similarly, the color question is open and we should have a further, higher-level, discussion about that. Let's get the bulk of the problematic bios cleaned-up before we get too de...

    I'd suggest, just for the record, that the table vs. bulleted list issue be revisited since it wasn't a clear cut decision, and that Jack's suggestion that no more tables be made is a tacit way of pushing his POV regarding tables, just as his intention to carry issues on elsewhere. I don't believe the issue was clearly discussed because the majority of opinions didn't weigh in on that issue and in other cases, a clear preference wasn't discerned without reading between the lines. I asked Moonriddengirl about that and she said that she didn't try to read the intention in many cases. Rather than suggest that it be stopped, as Jack has done, it needs to be rediscussed to clarify it. It's not a foregone conclusion because one prominent editor in the discussion persistently brought it up. And it is not a good idea to go about warning editors not to table filmographies. That issue was far from clearly decided. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:51, 20 April 2010 (UTC) 1. You're free to offer whateve...

    And at what point in all of that discussion was it EVER agreed, much less mentioned, to convert tables to the sortable mess? Talk about imposing one's personal POV into the mix and ignoring the consensus reached on this page. Jack Merridew has now begun removing the filmography table header. See here, here, here and here. Who was it who was concerned that someone would try to override consensus? Hmm? I recall that Jack Merridew was. Wildhartlivie (talk) 15:51, 3 May 2010 (UTC) 1. Sortability is actually a valid argument for presenting filmographies in table form. It's a feature of wikitables that is widely used and supported, so it's hardly unprecedented. The key impediments to sorting are the amok header structures in-place out there (the multi-row and abutted-together tables), and all the use of rowspan on years. The first makes little sense semantically, and the rowspans are a chief impediment to editors properly editing the table syntax. Sincerely, Jack Merridew19:59, 3 May 2010...

  3. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers/Archive 14/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers. We've made some enhancements to the original report.

  4. Nymf ( talk) 08:30, 10 January 2015 (UTC) The rowspan value at the bottom should have been 3, but it was 4. That's what broke the sortability. And I added the entry you asked for. That looks like a very nice table, BTW (until I sort it, now--try sorting by year before any other column for a good before/after effect).

  5. {{WPBiography}} is coded so that an article can be tagged for the arts and entertainment work group or WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers, but not both at the same time. The reason for this appears to be the overlapping scope of the two: WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers is regarded as a child project of the arts and entertainment work group.

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