The Iberian Romance, Ibero-Romance or sometimes Iberian languages are a group of Romance languages that developed on the Iberian Peninsula, an area consisting primarily of Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar, Andorra and smaller territories of Northern Catalonia, and in southern France which are today more commonly separated into West Iberian and Occitano-Romance language groups.
- Origins and development
Like all Romance languages, the Iberian Romance languages...
- Common traits between Portuguese, Spanish and Catalan
This list points to common traits of these Iberian subsets,...
- Origins and development
By this time, and possibly as early as the 6th century according to Price (1984),: 6 the Romance lects had split apart enough to be able to speak of separate Gallo-Romance, Ibero-Romance, Italo-Romance and Eastern Romance languages.
The Iberian Romance, or Ibero-Romance, languages are a branch of Romance languages. They were first spoken in Iberia. There are two branches of Iberian Romance languages, Occitano-Romance and West Iberian. The main two languages in the branch are Spanish (Castilian) and Portuguese.
West Iberian is a branch of the Ibero-Romance languages that includes the Castilian languages, Astur-Leonese, and the descendants of Galician-Portuguese. Pyrenean–Mozarabic may also be included. Until a few centuries ago, they formed a dialect continuum covering the western, central and southern parts of the Iberian Peninsula—excepting the Basque and Catalan-speaking territories. This is still the situation in a few regions, particularly in the northern part of the peninsula, but due to ...
- Portuguese, Galician, Galician-Portuguese
- Local Iberian Populations?
- Occitano-Romance Originates from Iberia?
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How many people do speak Catalan in France? Is it really 3,00, and what does this figure present? Should it be 3000 or does it mean 3%. --188.8.131.5208:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC) How come Catalan is Ibero-Romance? I thought it was Gallo-Romance, and apparently so did the article about the language itself.-Kaimoconn (talk) 16:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC) 1. Specifically, it's Occitano-Romance, often included in the Gallo-Romance. Some linguists may include Catalan (and even Occitan) in an extension of the Ibero-Romance, as these are the most related languages to this group. That's what should be explained in this article. However, if we study the Occitano-Romace group (Occitan and Catalan), it seems more related to the Gallo-Romance.--Ssola (talk) 22:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Error!In which state is Artur-Leonese official? Portugal? Mirandese is officially recognised.Spain? Bable is officially recognised.It has no official status. I can be wrong, of course, I hope you'll correct me. Cheers! :)User:Marco Neves 1. I get a bit dizzy with these edit conflicts. What I hope to have made clear is that Astur-Leones e is (at least for some) the superset of several dialects (Asturian, Leonese, Mirandese, at least). I am not sure if there is a common standard for them or several. At least in Asturias there is an Academy. Bable has been applied to: 1.1. some of dialects in Asturias 1.2. all the dialects in Asturias 1.3. Astur-Leonese as a whole 1.4. It can even translate patois. 1. Besides some people don't like the word "Bable". 1. I think that the borders between languages and dialects (as in having a standard) are not very clear for Astur-Leonese. 1. Summarizing, I thought that Mirandese, hence, Astur-Leonese is co-official in Miranda. If you know otherwise,...
"The fact that a Portuguese kingdom was formed allowed the formation of a distinct Portuguese language, based on the ancient Galician-Portuguese romance. Early Portuguese can be seen as codified Galician-Portuguese. Separation and eventual codification of Galician led to these two varieties being considered different languages today."This is a totally biased account: 1. There was no objective historical transition between Galician-Portuguese and Portuguese (or Galician). There was no 'codification' of Galician-Portuguese when Portugal became independent; people just kept talking the way they always had. 2. Galician and Portuguese are "considered different languages today" for mostly political and sociolinguistic reasons. I'm deleting it. 1. I don't entirely agree with you. The language in which early medieval Portuguese literature was written is called Galician-Portuguese and is, for the most part, indistinguishable from the Ibero-Romance spoken in Galicia at the time. However, as t...
This article desperatly needs a detailed map showing all languages and dialects in the Iberian peninsula (see Iberian languages). Anyone has one? The Ogre18:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC) 1. The problem with the map currently is that there is a whole lot of detail in particular dialects and languages within the Iberian Peninsula but nothing like it outside it. A distinction should be shown between having a official language and people speaking it as afirst language. Clearly there is difference to the Portuguese-speaking of Brazil and Angola and this should be shown on the map. Munci (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC) 1.1. YES! That map is a blunder. I have removed it. It not only has the problem you mentioned, but also it pretends that Spanish is somehow speken ALL over the States, Western Sahara and the Phillippines! I was speaking of a proper map for the Iberian Peninsula. The Ogre (talk) 12:56, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
What about Judaeo-Spanish (Ladino)? It's classified as an Iberian Romance language. I think it should be included in the article. Cazadordemolinos (talk) 19:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)Already added to the article Viller the Great (talk) 03:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
The article correctly notes that the first step in the developement of the languages was the latinization of the local peoples, but then gives a list in which almost all the examples are not "local iberian populations": the Goths, Vandals, Gauls, Brythons and Suebi all arrived in Iberia much later than the Romans. The true prerroman local populations (the Tartesians, Lusitanians, Iberians, Celtiberians etc.) were probably latinized well before these germanic tribes arrived in the Peninsula. I proceed to delete the list.184.108.40.206 (talk) 19:57, 11 February 2014 (UTC) 1. Note that that list included Basque, which was very probably already spoken in Iberia at the time, but that they were never fully Latinized. --JorisvS (talk) 14:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
The article states, perhaps somewhat implicitly, that Occitan (including Catalan) is Iberian Romance. There's even a map to that effect in the article. This is not the mainstream linguistic view as far as I know, which classifies the Occitan/Catalan group as Gallo-Romance. So this should probably be amended per WP:UNDUE. CodeCat (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC) 1. I believe that's mainly the POV of Ethnologue, where the terms "West Iberian" and "East Iberian" originate from. Linguasphere has no unit corresponding to Ibero-Romance, and it mentions the traditional classification of Catalan as Ibero-Romance but Occitan (including Gascon) as Gallo-Romance. User:Benwing is the most knowledgeable Wikipedian I know on matters of Romance historical linguistics, although he is not very active currently (probably busy with IRL jobs), but I think the problem is that Occitano-Romance does not align closely with either Gallo-Romance or Ibero-Romance, although it has features in common with both....
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May 12, 2021 · The Iberian Romance, Ibero-Romance or sometimes Iberian languages are a group of Romance languages that developed on the Iberian Peninsula, an area consisting primarily of Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar and Andorra, and in southern France which are today more commonly separated into West Iberian and Occitano-Romance language groups.
The Iberian Romance, Ibero-Romance or sometimes Iberian languages are a group of Romance languages that developed on the Iberian Peninsula, an area consisting primarily of Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar and Andorra, and in southern France which are today more commonly separated into West Iberian and Occitano-Romance language groups.